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December 18, 2005

domainers = squatters

these people and companies like marchex i consider to be the scum of the earth.  they are nothing but domain squatters.  they buy up domains that they know people will "type in" and then aggregate paid links, AdSense, and Overture ads to direct traffic. scum, scum, scum.

read all about them here:

Business 2.0 :: Magazine Article :: Features :: Masters of Their Domains


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Eventhough I don't like mass registrations, Domainers are not Cybersquaters. Check out the description at http://www.nolo.com/article.cfm/objectID/60EC3491-B4B5-4A98-BB6E6632A2FA0CB2/111/228/195/ART/

You are on the wrong side of this one. Whilst you and I may not like the fact that these people are getting filthy rich implementing an easy business model. The concept and practice of using generic website names to sell the products those names describe is defensible, pure and sound. In fact when I re-read your comments they sound quite jealous. There is a big difference between generic names and descriptive trademarks.

really? because it seems to me 90% of these things are one letter misspellings of trademarked names.

try misspelling google.com wrong by one letter and you get redirected to http://www.gooogly.com/

if you you type http://www.deel.com/ instead of http://www.dell.com, guess where you go? to someone who is squatting ona bunch of "Dell" aggregrations.

yahoo seems to have purchased ayhoo.com and yahooo.com. they shouldn't have to do that.

Ridiculous Steve. I am certainly not trying to defend the squatting of trademarks or typographical variants of TM's however, there is a big disconnect between that and a generic name or phrase such us those discussed in the article I read. I think 90% of paid search implementations I stumble across are on names such as microwaveovens.com, recipes.com etc.. not on google mis-spellings.

In regard to deel.com vs dell.com I read deel.com as a brandable play on the term "deal". Your argument there is like accusing Orbitz.com of squatting on Orbits or Google of Squatting on Googol (the real spelling of the term) Generic names are the right of those first to register. There simply are not enough names in (even in ever extension) for each of us to own "deal" as a domain. JMO

yes, deel.com is a play on "deal", not "Dell". that is why the first entries in both colums is a "Dell" link that goes to a page of AdSense ads keyed to the "dell" keyword.

just today, i was making a reservation at an Omni hotel and i accidentally typed "www.omihotels.com" and i got another one of these fucking pages.

some countries require a company to show legitimate business purpose before registering a domain. i used to think it was draconian. now i think it is genius.

Again, apples and oranges or perhaps "good apples" and "Bad apples" would be a more appropriate analogy. Donald trump is a business man. Bernie Ebbers is a bad business man. You don't stop doing business because some of it is bad. The guy who owns omnihotels is clearly doing the wrong thing (if he owns that name) the guys who own deals.com, shoppingdeals.com, traveldeals.com etc are doing nothing wrong IMO. It's their name and they can do what they want. I can't evict them for the same reason I can't go to Newport Beach and evict the guy living in the mansion I like (that he never even uses because he doesn't really live there).

The reason the internet is so cool is because people can do what they want (within legal reason), and these guys you are ranting about do not IMO seem to be doing anything so wrong. If legislated and regulated namespaces were so popular more people would be 'using' them .. they are not.

Lastly re: deel.com: IMO it does not matter what some clever algorithm at the popular search engine du jour is trying to "help" me because today that algo "thinks" that I typed deel looking to buy a Dell. D-E-E-L sounds like DEAL to me and thats why I would type that name in my address bar. If Michael Dell gets a trademark and starts selling his DEEL line of notebooks, then thats another story.

Great discussion though ;) Thanks.

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